Union Union (патч для Gothic)

[Gratt]

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• ◆ О продукте
  Union — это набор патчей и улучшений для движка Gothic, который исправляет ошибки, добавляет новые возможности и делает игру совместимой с современными системами. Он поддерживает загрузку плагинов и предоставляет простой интерфейс для модификаций через API движка, позволяя расширять функционал игры без необходимости изменять ее исходный код.
  
  Разработчики - Gratt killer-m
  Список патчей Gothic ½ - Union - Патчи • Patches
  Описание настроек Gothic ½ - Union - Настройки • Settings
  
  ◆ Установка
  

  STEAM GOG Дисковые и другие изадния

  • 
    
    Gothic 1
    В свойствах игры выбрать ветку Workshop BETA
    Подписаться на продукт Steam Workshop::Union - patch for Gothic 1
    
    Gothic 2
    В свойствах игры выбрать ветку Workshop BETA
    Подписаться на продукт Steam Workshop::Union - patch for Gothic 2
    
    
  • 
    
    Gothic 1
    Уже предустановлен.
    Используйте новейшую версию для обновления [ARCHIVE] Union Legacy builds
    
    Gothic 2
    На чистую игру установить Первичный патч [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    На пропатченую игру установить новейшую версию Union [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    
    
  • 
    Gothic 1
    На чистую игру установить Первичный патч [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    На пропатченую игру установить новейшую версию Union [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    
    Gothic 2
    На чистую игру установить Первичный патч [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    На пропатченую игру установить новейшую версию Union [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    
    
  
  
  
• ◆ About
  Union is a collection of patches and enhancements for the Gothic engine, fixing bugs, adding new features, and making the game compatible with modern systems. It supports plugin loading and offers a simple engine API for mods, allowing you to expand the game’s functionality without editing the source code.
  
  
  Developers - Gratt killer-m
  Patches list Gothic ½ - Union - Патчи • Patches
  Settings list Gothic ½ - Union - Настройки • Settings
  
  ◆ Installation
  

  STEAM GOG Disk and another editions

  • 
    
    Gothic 1
    In the game properties choose the Workshop BETA
    Subscribe to the product Steam Workshop::Union - patch for Gothic 1
    
    Gothic 2
    In the game properties choose the Workshop BETA
    Subscribe to the product Steam Workshop::Union - patch for Gothic 2
    
    
  • 
    
    Gothic 1
    Already preinstalled.
    Use newest version for update [ARCHIVE] Union Legacy builds
    
    Gothic 2
    To the clear game install the Primary patch [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    To the patched game install a newest version of Union [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    
    
  • 
    Gothic 1
    To the clear game install the Primary patch [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    To the patched game install a newest version of Union [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    
    Gothic 2
    To the clear game install the Primary patch [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    To the patched game install a newest version of Union [ARCHIVE] Primary patch
    
    
  
  
  

 

[KirTheSeeker]

я думаю ты мог написать тоже самое в соответствующем треде этого плагина.

Я так и хотел, но не нашел тему через поиск. Извиняйте.
Как на форуме можно быстро выйти на список тем с плагинами, подскажите, пожалуйста?
Дабы в будущем не косячить.

 

[MEG@VOLT]

MEG@VOLT, будь добр, кинь сообщения начиная с этого и заканчивая этим в отдельный тред. Обзови как-нибудь `Разрабы vs Юзеры`.
KirTheSeeker, я думаю ты мог написать тоже самое в соответствующем треде этого плагина.
Народ, давайте как-то поорганизованней будем, надоел уже срачь. Если пишете про менеджер или плагины, так делайте это в отведенных для этого темах. Далеко не первый раз уже такое.

Ты же сам можешь создать тему и перенести в нее эти сообщения

 

[Gratt]

MEG@VOLT, не могу, моих прав тут нет в пользу LikerGothic вроде, он редактор этого треда.

 

[N1kX]

Попробовал посмотреть UseErrorVisuals
Можешь добавить пересылку сообщений в zspy? А то трудновато искать пропущенные текстуры, если они в материале zen файла
Текстуры неба надо добавить в исключения, вроде их движок отрисовывает

 

[Slavemaster]

Дохлые нпц с бронёй в кармане не берутся в фокус, если в SystemPack.ini прописано HideFocus=1 и ShowArmor=1

 

[Saturas]

Попробовал посмотреть UseErrorVisuals
Можешь добавить пересылку сообщений в zspy? А то трудновато искать пропущенные текстуры, если они в материале zen файла
Текстуры неба надо добавить в исключения, вроде их движок отрисовывает
Посмотреть вложение 86657

Нет, текстуры неба физические.

 

[Esel Else]

Hello guys,

first I have to say sorry that I don't understand russian language, so I have to write in english.
I tested Union for the first time now and there are massive problems with 3840x2160x32 resolution!
The intro videos are stuttering (feels like 1 fps), they also are some times very small in the left top corner of the screen, or squeezed, and can't be skipped at all via Esc. There is simply everything wrong with the video playing performance and scaling.
I tested System Pack 1.8, Union 1.0g (stable) and Union 1.0h (test) with the same result: all builds have the bug!
The next lower resolution such as 2560x1440x32 works fine.
I have applied the 4 GB patch from the Resource Manager before installing Union.

My hardware should not be too weak:

Intel Core i7-4770
nVidia GeForce RTX 2070 (latest driver)
16 GB DDR3 RAM-1600
Windows 10 Professional x64

Can you reproduce the issues? This really must be fixed in the future. Maybe you can add GPU video scaling instead of CPU?
I also noticed that when I start the game, I get the Windows mouse cursor in the main menu which means the game task starts in the background. This should also be fixed. Here only System Pack 1.8 does not have this issue.

And maybe it makes also sense to remove all 16 bit resolutions from the game video options, except 640x480x16.
I tried dgVoodoo2 on the vanilla game and it works so great. Videos are playing and scaled correctly, fps lock is removed and no strange behavior with modern systems. The only thing what you don't have are all the engine fixes that comes with Union such as FOV corrected widescreen support etc. I had to play in 2880x2160 resolution which is a 4:3 on 4K TV screen.

Union is great, but there is a lot to improve. Especially when you play in very high resolutions such as 4K or even higher. In the future we have 8K monitors. Union should prepared for this.

Thank you!


Update:
Sorry, I forgot to mention I used the GOG version and I found the issue. GOG adds an own ddraw.dll DirectX1-7 wrapper into the System folder of the game. This is not compatible with Union. Removing that file is the solution!

If you want to check it out, here is the ddraw.dll that is part of the GOG version. This file doesn't help anyway. Game doesn't even start in vanilla. So it's better GOG removes that file from their setup. But here you can test what this file break.

 

[Esel Else]

The offline installers of the primary patches are different than those downloaded by the Resource Manager. They can't even be installed. The setup fails. They also have a black window box, while the non-offline installers have white window boxes. I also ask me why they are 40 MB big, while they only seems to include the patched Gothic.exe. Is that Union folder in C:\ProgramData neccessary for the Union to work? Or can it be removed?

 

[Gratt]

problems with 3840x2160x32 resolution!

It's the slow rendering problem. Now i haven't idea how to fix it. Maybe later.

why they are 40 MB big

Exe files, videos, music parts and etc original bug-files.

for the Union to work?

For the Resource manager system files and Union SDK

 

[Esel Else]

Thank you, Guzz.
After I've found the issue that was caused by GOGs ddraw.dll, I have no slow rendering problems with that resolution anymore.

I will tell GOG some day, that they should remove their ddraw.dll from the installer to avoid conflicts for many other people who use Union in combination.

 

[Gratt]

I will tell GOG some day, that they should remove their ddraw.dll

Not necessary. I will put this library into a backup directory, thanks.

 

[Esel Else]

Okay, glad to help.

The issue Gothic starts in background task where you see the mouse cursor from Windows and can't skip the logo videos is still there in 1.0h test build.

And I have a very special request:
When you increase the DrawDistanceMultiplier from 1 to 3 (which is the value to see no more pop ups) the fog will also moved far away by the factor of the DrawDistanceMultiplier. This is very bad, because I like the fog. Can you make a separate option for the fog distance? So that you can tweak both things separated from each other?

Thanks so much

 

[Gratt]

The issue Gothic starts in background task where you see the mouse cursor from Windows and can't skip the logo videos is still there in 1.0h test build.

That's original bug, thanks to the bink player. Why your game starts in the background task? If it's by chance, u can kill process with a `Ctrl + Alt + Q` combination and try to start again.

 

[Esel Else]

Starting again doesn't change anything. This happens on every start. Maybe it's like you've said because of the new binkw32.dll that comes with 1.0h because 1.0g with old binkw32.dll starts correctly in the foreground. Don't you reproduce this issue?

Could you update binkw32.dll with the latest version from RAD Game Tools?

 

[sicness]

Привет, ребзя!
Проблема при установке Union Готика существенно тормозит, только отрубаешь плагин файл G1_plugin.dll сразу начинает летать

 

[Gratt]

sicness, ну так и пиши его разработчику. Мы то тут при чем, не очень понимаю...

Could you update binkw32.dll with the latest version from RAD Game Tools?

I don't think so... Bink depends on the engine.

 

[Esel Else]

Okay, no problem.

And what about to separate the fog distance from the DrawDistanceMultiplier? So that the fog does no longer move away when increasing draw distance. I like the fog, but playing with standard draw distance would show pop up effects of the world in the distance.

 

[Myxomop]

Проблема при установке Union Готика существенно тормозит, только отрубаешь плагин файл G1_plugin.dll сразу начинает летать

Походу уже майнеры под Юнион начинают писать

 

[Gratt]

what about to separate the fog distance from the DrawDistanceMultiplier?

killer-m

 

[killer-m]

Okay, no problem.

And what about to separate the fog distance from the DrawDistanceMultiplier? So that the fog does no longer move away when increasing draw distance. I like the fog, but playing with standard draw distance would show pop up effects of the world in the distance.

For Gothic 2 you can find this setting in Gothic.ini
change

zNearFogScale=1
zFarFogScale=1

to something like

zNearFogScale=0.25
zFarFogScale=0.25